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  • Red will always be my favourite, black is no colour at all and practically invisible at night, so for night riding I would never want to be on a black motorcycle. One down side with red is that it fades quickly if you leave it out in direct sun all the time, white is the least affected by sun in my experience.
    For our new riders purpose I was thinking mostly of visibility & this is a pretty flashy looking ride that is going to catch lots of attention:

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    • How bout a big hog with lots of chrome and really loud pipes then?

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      • Chrome is nice and reflective, a completely chrome motorcycle would be really flash and never fade, but it might flake off in big chunks.

        Intentionally loud pipes on a motorcycle is a heat score.

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        • Originally posted by Trials View Post
          Chrome is nice and reflective, a completely chrome motorcycle would be really flash and never fade, but it might flake off in big chunks.
          Norton V4RR, value priced for people with more money than brains:

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          • 315 lbs!

            https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...-specification



            Here in WA they have one-day class for those who failed the BRC, maybe something similar in CA?
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            • Originally posted by Trials View Post
              Intentionally loud pipes on a motorcycle is a heat score.
              What is "heat score"? Heat source?

              Anyway, I am not a fan of loud pipes. I like a nice rumbley growl but not too loud.

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              • Heat score is to openly annoy your neighbours and/or to invite unwanted attention by the police, which is pretty much the same thing.
                As much as I love the sound of my MV Agusta I would enjoy a totally silent motorcycle even more and putting intentionally loud exhaust systems on a vehicle :/ well that's just childish, I haven't thought loud was a fine idea since I was 12. Loud pipes are like a little kid who for no apparent reason screaches so loud that it hurts your ears.

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                • Originally posted by WoodstockJeff View Post
                  Norton V4RR...
                  "There's no mirrors; you won't need them with a rear facing camera feeding through to your full-color 7-inch HD electronic dash."

                  I put a rear facing camera on my MV years ago! Guess I'm just slightly ahead of my time.

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                  • Originally posted by Trials View Post
                    Heat score is to openly annoy your neighbours and/or to invite unwanted attention by the police, which is pretty much the same thing.
                    As much as I love the sound of my MV Agusta I would enjoy a totally silent motorcycle even more and putting intentionally loud exhaust systems on a vehicle :/ well that's just childish, I haven't thought loud was a fine idea since I was 12. Loud pipes are like a little kid who for no apparent reason screaches so loud that it hurts your ears.
                    Who would intentionally invite unwanted attention from the police. The po-po out here are already attentive enough

                    I haven’t any need for loud pipes for the sake of loud pipes. I’m also often befuddled by some of the cruiser guys with obnoxious straight-ish pipes. Not just because it’s obnoxious but more as a person who’s addicted to great sounding engines I confused why anyone would cover up the engine tone with a blatty sounding noise. On the other hand the sound of a well tuned Ducati is magic. The Honda 250rr club that rides my area, those bikes make a blissful note albeit certainly not quiet. I’m diggin the stock sound on the newer KTM machines as well. My new Street Triple is pretty docile until you jump on it, it’s has a nice note from there but I’ll admit the Euro4 exhaust on the bike covers some of the great engine and intake whirl the earlier Steet Triples had. I’ll jump on a new exhaust as soon as all the fuel maps are sorted out. The there’s this https://youtu.be/DrukZIqDbMg

                    The sound of a stock Ferrari is the best sound I’ve ever heard followed closely by my friendly, unassuming neighbor who (surprise!) happens to have a Ford GT in his garage. What a noise that machine makes. There’s a guy at work that has Maclaren and I’ll sneak out just to hear him fire it up. I’ve been to an F1 race and although clearly nothing on the planet is as loud it’s still an awsome sensory experience.

                    Loud pipes not so much.....loud engines a bit of a different story for me

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                    • Ever go to a MotoGP? Now THERE'S some loud pipes! The 250s sound like angry bees, but the premier class bikes ... wow!
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                      • Originally posted by asp125 View Post
                        Ever go to a MotoGP? Now THERE'S some loud pipes! The 250s sound like angry bees, but the premier class bikes ... wow!
                        Yea actually I have been to a MotoGp. Almost made it this (last) year but work, as usual, got in the way. Same thing, that first lap pass is sensory over-load. I even get a kick out of YouTube watching the pre-season testing MotoGp does. Hearing a single MotoGp bike echo and roar down the straight at Sepang is musical to me.i

                        On a side note I realized after posting I may have been a little prejudice in my post signaling out cruiser style bike as using loud pipes for the sake of loud pipes. It’s a practice certainly not limited to cruiser folk. The street Rossi’s here in Los Angeles are equally as guilty of putting on pipes that serve little purpose other than to make a lot of noise. It seems of late and as the market expands Sports riders have moved and morphed from the glorious sounding after-market pipes like the Akro’s, Termi’s and Remus to the MUCH more aggressive SC’s, Austin Racing and Yosh’s. That and where a proper (post new exhaust) tune and air filter can gain a handful of horsepower it would then logically lead to the question of “does one really need more horsepower on their 2018 R1”? Probably not

                        I have no problem with a great sounding engine/exhaust combo especially if it’s complimentary of the character of the machine. But as I mentioned loud for loud sake is goofy no matter the genre.

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