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    A change in the wind?

    The following Chinese manufacturers of motorcycles have booths this year at the Powersports Dealer Expo in Indianapolis: Guangdong, Guangzhow, Jialing, Jiangmen, Kasea, Lifan, Linhai, Loncin, Ningbo, Qingqi, Zhejiang and Zongshen.

    Most don't build a product an American dealer could sell - today. You gotta figure, though, that they didn't go to Indiana in February for the weather or the casinos. They're probably there to pass out business cards and company capability brochures, introduce themselves, and build up their "rolodex" files for the future.

    Now that I think about it, I suppose that a motorcycle with "Guangzhow" or "Zhejiang" on the tank would have to have a pretty generous fuel capacity.

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    damn, that's a lot of manufacturers

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    Quote Originally Posted by CometRider
    damn, that's a lot of manufacturers
    Ah, mainland China, very inscrutable. There are aledgedly ~100 motorcycle factories in China: private ventures, state run, and joint developments. The market is so big (how big is it?) that each of those factories averages as many units a year as each of Harley Davison's three factories, collectively building well over 10,000,000 new motorbikes and scooters this year. Woof.

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    If there any good they might upset the motorcycle industry like Honda did in the sixty's and seventy's . They will probably be cheaper than the other imports.
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    don't do it...control yourself...back off....oh dammit....

    I'll have an order of Ningbo Rolls, some Shrimp Fried Lifan, and Sweet and Sour Guangzhow for two.

    To go.

    sorry....couldn't help it...sound too much like menu items
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    It would have to be on price as the major factor.

    When Honda and others first came to the states, they had price and quality over existing marques.

    It would be awesome to see some new manufacturers have the same impact as the Honda Dream and Yamaha DT250 had. It's about time for another shakeup in the industry.

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    Unfortunatelly we won't see a new honda very soon. The quality of most of the Chinese bikes is very low and even a low price won't bring a lot of buyers in their stores.

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    That is intresting, Tom. I think a lot depends on the Koreans, though. There are a few good quality bikes, trying to get their foot in the door right now. Hyosung's cruiser did really well in an American magazine comparo last year. I'm very sad that I never did get to see a Comet vs EX250 comparo. And with all the buzz about their 650s right now, I probably never will. Based on my limited exposure to Chineses bikes, I think their best shot is to let the Koreans crack the door open, then sneak in behind them, and under sell them. Then both do what the Japanese auto makers did. Continue to raise quality while still underselling the competition, until twenty years later, voila, you can charge what ever you want, because to a new generation, you are the quality standard. The big hurtle the Chinese have in my opinion, is that producing a superior product, that not everyone can afford, is sort of against their political beliefs.
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    There is a small scooter shop here in Conway, Arkansas that has a few 250's by Lifan. Price is around $2500 brand new and they offer like a one year warranty. I looked into it a bit b/c the price interested me, but I just couldn't trust it at this point. Plus - if I can ever convince my wife to get on board about the m/c idea, the LTC at my ROTC department has a 2002 Honda Shadow 600 VLX he'd sell for $3000. MAN do I want that m/c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeInSLC
    don't do it...control yourself...back off....oh dammit....

    I'll have an order of Ningbo Rolls, some Shrimp Fried Lifan, and Sweet and Sour Guangzhow for two.

    To go.

    sorry....couldn't help it...sound too much like menu items
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