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    Concours vs. VFR?

    Want a bike again. First/last bike was a 1994 Honda CB1000. Joined up here only to learn it wasn't the best first bike choice. Served me well - 8 seasons of Chicago riding, 35,000 incident-free miles. I took a proper class over 2 weekends. Loved the inline 4, relatively neutral riding position, big, honking front brake and Honda reliability.

    Have not been on a bike since 2015 - 53 years old, 6' 2" 210 lbs. - mostly want something for riding around city and day trips. $2500-3500 budget. Was previously looking at the Versys for modest ADV riding, but not sure about that need now, plus going from 1000cc I4 to the smaller Versys. Plenty of early 2000s Concours models here in Chicago, mostly with sidebags, so that is a real plus for that model.

    The VFRs are less abundant in the CHI. I know of the love around here for the VFR, just curious what your thoughts are when comparing both. Might add/replace with a modern standard a few years later.
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    For me, they are 2 different bikes but....

    I have owned a Concours and I've ridden a VFR. The Connie is heavy but once at speed, it doesn't feel heavy. There is a buzziness in the handlebars on it that I didn't like. I also found myself riding my Strom more and moving the Connie around too much in the garage, so I sold the Connie. My daughter also liked being a passenger on the Strom better than the Connie.

    My VFR experience was a test ride situation. A friend had one and let me ride it for a bit. It was a fun ride but I didn't ride it enough and i was awhile ago to give specifics.

    I would pick the VFR if I had to pick between the 2.
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    "The Connie is heavy but once at speed, it doesn't feel heavy. There is a buzziness in the handlebars on it that I didn't like."

    That's a huge turnoff! I completely forgot about weight. Okay, maybe it's now VFR VS 919.
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    Just came back from a both ways ride on the Blue Ridge Pkwy and a few adjoining roads for total of about 950 miles of twisties and a further 750 miles there and back on my '99 VFR. I also have a 06 ST1300 and a 15 r1200GS and they are pigs compared to the VFR in tight curves.

    OTOH .. if I was going to super slab it to California and back I'd pick either of the porkers .. (probably the GS because nothing says love on the Interstate like cruise control .. ). I also have a gixxer 750 .. but who wants to ride 750 miles of flat and boring on a pure sportsbike ..
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    OBX's answer is the reasoning why I say they are two different bikes (Connie vs VFR).

    But I have done an Iron Butt Saddlesore on my Strom so I may not be as much of a prima donna as he is.
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    Either you bought it...or it's too late. Post removed. Sad face.
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    Sad face indeed. Beautifully maintained 2002 VFR 2nd owner, 36 thousand miles, red with seat cowl and heated grips for $2900. The weather here in Chicago has been dreadful, but this weekend was gorgeous. To be fair, I haven't even test sat one yet to see if the ergos work, so I can't get too bummed here. The YouTube walk-around/startup video was really impressive.
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    I've owned a '97 VFR750 and my current '99 .. and the 2002 was a step in the wrong direction IMNHO. Heavier and VTEC .. for what? None of the tests showed better mileage with the VTEC .. and you have this sudden power increase in the middle of the band. For my money the '98-2001 VFRs were the cream of the crop and I actually prefer the '94-97 vfr750s to the 2002+ VFRs. VTEC might be good technology on an Accord .. but its purpose is lost on a motorcycle.

    Still way better than a Connie .. unless your going to be doing Iron Butts. (I completed one .. and was so disappointed in myself for over riding my fatigue limit I never turned in the paperwork.)

    I pondered buying a 2014 when they were on sale at a very big discount .. just to get traction control and abs .. but the only time I have "set off" the abs on any of my bikes was on purpose. And I suppose I could have used traction control a time or two .. but that was on a race track where I was intentionally riding near the limit.

    Now cruise control .. that there is the cat's pajamas ..

    If Honda wanted to make a GREAT VFR ..take the '98 -01 viffer.. lose 10 lbs., put a truly first class suspension under her, gain 10 hp, abs, heated grips and cruise control ... I don't even want "matching luggage" what GIVI makes is plenty good enough ..
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    Like others who've posted, I think a Connie .. especially the C1400, is best suited for covering cross country miles quickly and comfortably. Want to ride 300 miles before lunch? Sure, with room in the luggage to bring home leftovers. But when the going gets twisty the VFR it your weapon of choice.

    I've had both a 91VFR750F (RC36) and my current 2002 6thGen VFR800 with Vtec. Each has its own pros and cons. The earlier 91 had the wonderful gear driven cam noise and more sporting feel. The 02, for me, feels less sporty but more developed as a sport tourer, even though as OBX says, the earlier Vtec snatchiness is annoying to some. Honda did rework the later models (2006-2008 ) to lower the Vtec activation threshold.
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