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    Quote Originally Posted by dpwell View Post
    i was thinking the BMW gs 310 might be a good option. There's a rally raid kit for it, plus it's not super heavy or super tall. I think it's around 370 wet.

    In general is the difference between heavy bikes and light bikes due to steel vs. aluminium frames and other parts?
    Aluminum, titanium (for axles & higher stressed components), magnesium, plastics and carbon fibre, fancy tubeless spoked rims that are designed to save weight, omit or improve the design of anti-vibration counter weights, omit the ABS stuff, smaller fuel capacity, aluminum or plastic fuel tank, 1 good front disc brake instead of 2 mediocre ones, single walled header pipes and an aluminum muffler, aluminum nikasil coated barrels instead of pressed in steel sleeves. Fewer parts to achieve the same results in weight saving by design, example: If you have a front fender :/ you really don't need a beak.

    The BMW GS310 is no light weight but a very nice motorcycle just the same! BMW did offer other models that are more directly comparable such as the G450X. Oh and btw, GS310 is manufactured by TVS (Thirukkurungudi Vengaram Sundry) motors in India, BMW performance bikes don't typically come from India. Closer to 250 pounds for a Husky 350 or 450 that makes the GS310 heavier by 120 pounds or 50%, but to be fair that also buys you a rear luggage rack, a tool kit and passenger accommodations. (2 person motorcycles need a lot more rear subframe structure to adequately carry a couple of hundred pounds of additional passenger.) GS310 is fitted with mags in a size that limits you to pretty much the tires that come on it, Metzler Tourance. Is a good radial tire but not a great on or off road performance tire.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dpwell View Post

    What I'd really like is the same bike, but 75 or 100 pounds lighter. That is, I'd like a bike around 400 or 500 cc, no more than 350 lbs wet (the X is 430 wet), not super high (the X is about perfect for me at seat height: 32"), and with a seat you can sit on for at least an hour. And something that I could take off road, mainly gravel FSRs and the like.

    I may end up getting something like the honda crf250, but it'd be nice to have something a tad lower, with a bit more power and a wider seat.

    Any suggestions?
    So, lighter than your Honda? I'd say a KTM 350EXC as you don't need the add'l thrust of the 500EXC. Sure, it'll be expensive. Most KTM's are. Why? Because they're WORTH IT! They do need a more comfy seat though. Ceet racing may have something for them. The seat height is going to be your limiting factor as most dual sport bikes have a 37" seat height. Just the nature of these beasts. Don't worry about the high seat height, as your mass will sack the rear/front suspension by 3-4 inches, probably. The KTM 350 is no slouch either. It is a very capable machine.

    Honda just released a CRF450L. It's kinda low on power (38hp) but it's very tractable and the Showa suspension has been getting good reviews. Since it's new, it's garnered interest. Pricing is quite strong at 10 grand though.

    Good luck with your search!
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    Replacement parts networks are bigger then most realize too, because for all intent purposes the KTM and Husqvarna is the identical bike, if you need parts for one and the dealer doesn't have them then try the other brand dealer beyond the colour of the plastics, graphics and where it was built the bikes are close enough to identical the vast majority of parts are directly interchangeable.

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    The suzuki dr650 and drz400 both look promising. I think the dr is only 1inch higher than my x, and 100 pounds lighter.
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    DRZ400S Adventure Mod

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3bHkRfcnek

    Thinking about doing something like this to my DRZ400S and selling Versys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorg67 View Post
    DRZ400S Adventure Mod

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3bHkRfcnek

    Thinking about doing something like this to my DRZ400S and selling Versys.
    Thanks, here's another good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almo8OnD8UE

    If I get one I'll probably want to be lowering it a bit, too.
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    Thanks. Good one.

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    My son wants to lower mine. I like at stock height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorg67 View Post
    My son wants to lower mine. I like at stock height.
    If you decide to lower it there's a discussion on that here: https://advrider.com/f/threads/lower...rz-400.516923/

    It's a bit old but I believe this bike hasn't changed much in many years so I guess it's still applicable.
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    Fully adjustable

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