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    ( expletive deleted ) !!!

    So much for nice things...A.K.A. the aftermath of "Then & Now" ( http://www.beginnerbikers.org/showth...p-Now-20-Years )

    I'm beyond pissed.





    Partial disassembly revealed some serious ugliness. Here's the most likely culprit, the stator-to-main wiring harness connection:



    Some damage to the battery box:



    Here's the real ugliness, where the fire spread up towards:





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    Fuel pump fire?

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    Awww...that sucks, Shadow. Sorry to see this.
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    What are the lessons we can learn to reduce risk of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorg67 View Post
    What are the lessons we can learn to reduce risk of this?
    Assuming the source of combustion was indeed the fuel pump :/ on this particular type of design not a heck of a lot other then perhaps scheduled replacement, but if it was a fuel injected motor; the fuel pump would typically be located inside the fuel tank and your gasoline supplies cooling for the fuel pump motor which runs very hot, so the best practice on a fuel injected anything is to keep plenty of fuel in the tank and never run it completely dry. You can literally boil the gasoline in your fuel tank on a fuel injected motorcycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trials View Post
    but if it was a fuel injected motor; the fuel pump would typically be located inside the fuel tank and your gasoline supplies cooling for the fuel pump motor which runs very hot, so the best practice on a fuel injected anything is to keep plenty of fuel in the tank and never run it completely dry. You can literally boil the gasoline in your fuel tank on a fuel injected motorcycle.
    I have heard this about cars. Not as a fire risk, but as a risk of causing the fuel pump to fail. Is that correct?

    Leaking carburetor also a fire risk?

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    Wouldn’t a fuel pump fire result in more damage to the tank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Matt View Post
    Wouldn’t a fuel pump fire result in more damage to the tank?
    looks like somebody put it out with dry chemical, no?
    an external fuel pump motor to pump connection has to have a seal of some kind, motor runs in air, air is combustible poof point of ignition but that's just my hunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Shack View Post
    Here's the real ugliness, where the fire spread up towards:

    hoses look perfect, to my eye that leak is on the motor side of the pump no?

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    is your rectifier toast, and where is that located? fuel pump power is supplied by the spark coil, yes? is a pulse pump

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