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    Oh wow, that's terrible! Where / when did this happen? I'm assuming you were riding the bike?

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    It started smoking at a stop light on my way to work Thursday morning, so when it turned green I took off to find the closest parking lot which was a McDonald's. I could see flame reflecting off the mufflers so I ran in for a fire extinguisher and gave it 6-8 good blasts from different angles...some by shoving the hose into the seat and others from the underside.

    That was not fun stuff to clean off, and there's still some residual element lurking (mostly inside the seat).

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    What are the lessons we can learn to reduce risk of this?
    Not much, it was a single owner bone stock bike. I could digest this a little better had it been owned by half a dozen or so owners that each performed their own hack wiring jobs along the way...but that's just not the case.

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    Fuel pump fire?
    It looks like the fire started at the stator-to-main wiring harness connection (first post- fire extinguisher pic). From there it spread upward to the fuel pump and I'm guessing some hot melted flaming plastic from the seat and/or rear fender dripped onto the battery box below.

    What really pisses me off is that was a new (to me) seat...I had just acquired it a couple months ago to replace the 20 year old one that was tearing. They don't make those anymore and it's getting tough to find them in decent shape. :banghead:

    is your rectifier toast, and where is that located? fuel pump power is supplied by the spark coil, yes? is a pulse pump
    The rectifier/regulator is on the opposite side (along with the CDI module). I have yet to test anything but so far the seat and rear fender, while damaged, could still be serviceable (although comfort may be a factor since a good chunk of the foam burned) and look fine when assembled, you can't see the damage at all (re: first two pics covered in extinguishing element). I'll need a wiring harness (also no longer in production), rear coil, fuel pump, and tail light at the very least...and in a perfect world a replacement stator (also no longer in production) in lieu of cutting the damaged wiring loose and splicing in fresh wires with a new connector.

    The pump is a pulse type pump wired to the rear coil. That's the ugly piece in the under seat pic.

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    That sucks. How old was the bike?
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    Sorry to hear about that Shadow Shack
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    That's hard to look at. I hope that it all works out to be restorable.
    The stator output connector is a high voltage and high current junction. Early Buell XB series models had a problem melting a similar junction, but no fires that I know of. Any dirt or corrosion in that connection and it will readily get quite hot. You are actually better off splicing wires and using a higher quality connector set. While you are at it, check the connection at the regulator, it carries the same amount of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZridered View Post
    That's hard to look at. I hope that it all works out to be restorable.
    The stator output connector is a high voltage and high current junction. Early Buell XB series models had a problem melting a similar junction, but no fires that I know of. Any dirt or corrosion in that connection and it will readily get quite hot. You are actually better off splicing wires and using a higher quality connector set. While you are at it, check the connection at the regulator, it carries the same amount of power.
    Same issue with the ZX12Rís. There was a recall on the wiring to the junction. It seems engine oil would travel up via capillary action to the junction and short it. Had a few bikes burn to the ground.
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    To the best of my knowledge, no Buells burned. They did kill their regulators though. Air-cooled BMWs have their alternators and voltage regulators only about ten inches apart and so have a specific charging system sub-harness (three wires). Even at that, a small amount of corrosion at either end can cause the terminals to overheat, and melt the connectors.

    In an earlier period, I worked on a lot of '70s and '80s Asian bikes and had to replace the alternator connectors more than once.

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