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    MSF Bike Bonding Class

    Hi all. I originally thought of this as just a Rider Coach thread but wanted to discuss it here and spread the word to everyone so that in the event the class is offered where you live YOU CAN AND SHOULD TAKE IT!!!

    So, two of our instructors here in UT went and became certified to instruct the bike bonding classes MSF is starting to offer. There is a basic and an ultimate bike bonding class. The basic class is done on the 250's, or the student can bring their own bike if it is under 500cc's. The Ultimate class is done on your bike like an ERC or ARC would be. Anyway, upon their return the offered the instructors here a chance to experience some of both classes. Being the smart folks that we are, Todd and I jumped at the chance to take a class.

    Here's a brief description, borrowed from http://rollingwheels.biz/bike_bonding_courses.htm

    The Bike Bonding Rider Courses are precision riding courses, and are divided into the Basic Bike Bonding Rider Course (BBBRC) and the Ultimate Bike Bonding Rider Course (UBBRC). Bike Bonding refers to the connection and interaction of the rider and motorcycle. Good bike bonding helps riders automate their physical skills so they can devote more attention to road and traffic conditions (searching and evaluating).

    The MSF Basic Bike Bonding RiderCourse (BBBRC) is a program patterned after police training courses. It stresses motorcycle manipulation skills to maximize low-speed operation and control. Emphasis is placed on helping riders improve their control manipulation, or "putting the bike where you want it".

    The general objective is for participants to develop and practice basic skills beyond those acquired in the Basic RiderCourse. By the end of the course, participants will have sufficient motorcycle control skills to handle a motorcycle in more challenging street situations.

    The Ultimate Bike-Bonding RiderCourse is all about rider precision. This program was derived from police motorcycle training courses, and consists of drills and skill circuits to improve a rider’s performance. Control operation and body positioning are emphasized to improve smoothness and precision. It stresses motorcycle manipulation skills to maximize low-speed operation and control. Emphasis is placed on helping riders improve their control manipulation, or "putting the bike where you want it". A primary value of having good bike-bonding is how it transfers to actual on-street riding in the form of smooth control inputs and more spare "mental capacity" with which to strategize riding plans and escape routes.

    The UBBRC is designed for riders who possess solid basic skills and have recent riding experience. It is recommended that the motorcycle be appropriate for the size and strength of its rider. The UBBRC does not have a formal classroom component. The overall aim is to help riders develop smooth and precise control as they manipulate the primary controls and develop riding techniques. The UBBRC allows participants to refine and practice skills, mostly in low-speed exercises. By the end of the course, participants should be able to handle their motorcycle in a more precise and smooth manner.
    So, this is a class of slow speed exercises. It's not a "touring skills" class, but one designed to get you to bond with your bike for slow speed maneuvers. And let me tell you ... the friggin class ROCKS! Damn I had a blast and loved it.

    Oh ... I won the award for MOST CONES KILLED!!!

    That being said, I did improve by the end of the morning and am happy with that. We were all sad to have it end as we were just having too much fun. The class is challenging, make no mistake about that. I was pushed hard, particularly since slow speed stuff is my major weakness. Even Todd, who is quiet smooth and good at slow speed maneuvers was challenged and picked up some pointers.

    I forget all we did but will try to remember things roughly.

    We had a zig zag course where you rode out, speeding up toward the cones, then a tight turn to race back to the next one, zig zagging back and forth. Cones maybe ... um ... 30-40 yards apart? So basically lots of large V's and /\'s. Tight cornering. Next was another zig zag type but you had to speed up and then stop at each one, full crank of handle bars left/right, then go in a limited space. They stressed putting down the INSIDE foot for the turn, which was weird for me since I always put the left down at a stop. But if making a right turn, having the right foot down had the bike already leaned a bit in the direction I wanted to go anyway! Let's see, there was one called the loli-pop where you weave around 4 cones going in and then do a circle left or right (your choice). I think the diameters were 24', 26', an 28'. I was killing cones here! lol But I blame my side cases for it... they stick out far! yeah, that's my excuse!

    We did one, kinda like the zig zag, but much closer, so you'd enter two cones, immediately make a hard left/right tear drop to get into and through the next one, basically weaving your way through. Three of these, small, medium, and large. There was an exercise that was comprised of three circles marked by cones, and you weaved in and out of the cones as you went around the circle. Again, a small, medium, and large. Kinda killed a few cones here too! lol One of the most ... complex ... consisted of a tight figure eight, then a T box where you'd follow the T clockwise and then exit, a "hamburger bun" figure eight that was kind of oval shaped and TIGHT, followed by another T box that you did counter clockwise. The right hand section of the hamburger bun oval caught me nearly every time.

    Let's see, we did a slight variation of the Peanut from the ERC for those of you who've done that. and a really cool lane change cool down exercise to end the class. This consisted of two ovals, one large and one smaller, with a change over in the middle of one of the long straights. Idea is to have situational awareness and change lanes (using turn signals). So you start out on the large oval and then take the inside one, then the outside one and so on. At some point you have traffic on both loops so traffic changing from one to the other at the cross over point. A really cool exercise and one that should be in the ERC imho.

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    Here's some vid's I found on YouTube that kinda show what we did.

    For this first one skip to about 0:55 and you'll see the lolipop exercise
    At 1:25 you'll see the rider coming in to do the T box
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    Oh, I want to do this!! Ride like a rodeo cop!!
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    This one shows the tear drop zig zag
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    this one shows the T box and figure eights better
    Ride safe, ride smart, ride ATGATT because sweat dries faster than scars heal

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    Here's the lolipop
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    That looks like fun. I wish they offered the full set of MSF courses here.

    Dave

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    Certain riders can make this stuff look easy. We have a guy on a HD glide of some kind and he rocked everything so amazingly smooth. I was very envious of him, his comfort with the bike, his smooth handling of throttle, clutch, rear break, all that. Every exercise he did was smooth and a thing of beauty.

    Mine ... my runs were more on the comical side! I'm not comfy on the Tiger yet for slow speed stuff but I want to be. I need to move the bike under me more, move around more, RELAX on it more. You really had to work on always keeping your head up and looking WAY ahead. Any momentary look down and you'd blow the exercise and/or kill a cone. We learned to have the engine revs up more than you might be used to, and then work the friction zone within that to maintain control. That was cool, not that I got the hang of it totally but I can work on it.

    One thing I am looking forward to is to see a video of one of our instructors during her certification. Sarah, besides just being a rockin RC and totally cool rider, is about 5'4 or so, petite. At the class they had her do the exercises on a Kawi Vulcan 1600 with forward controls! Now, at 5'4 Sarah isn't exactly built for a large cruiser with forward controls, ya know? but she did it, basically sitting up on the tank and she totally ROCKED the exercise. If she gives me permission I'll post the vid here.

    We didn't do everything in the Basic or Ultimate class. This ws more of an exposure class for us RC's and for us to get the word out to people here so we can generate some classes. I intend to take both classes as soon as they are offered. They did tell us there are other fun exercises like a weave but as you do the weave the distance between the cones gets smaller and smaller. So, say (and Im making this up as I'm not sure) 30' apart then 25', then 20', then 18', then 15', then 12', then 10', then 8' ... that sort of thing. So closer as you do them. Another exercise is an offset weave where the offset grows as you go down the line ... so say a 3' offset, then 5', then 8', then 10', then 12' type of thing. Now that would be fun!

    If any of you have this class offered where you are ... TAKE THEM, I think they are fun as hell and highly beneficial to all skill levels.
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    I might need to use my CT90 for some of those. That one will do circles in my single lane driveway.

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    This just makes me feel totally inadequate for STILL not being able to do the Box.

    (Which probably means I really could use this course.)
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