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Wookie
02-14-2005, 06:25 PM
Anybody else notice that they do excessive head turns while driving their car? :scratch:
Since I have started riding motorcycles again I've noticed that while in my car I'm doing the same head turns that I would while on my bike. Granted, I don't have the same clear view that I have on the bike, but it almost makes me laugh from time to time.
I also think it's making me a better driver in my car. How scarry is that? :???:
Anyway, I'm bored at work and just thought I'd share :wiggleit:
Triumph
02-14-2005, 06:27 PM
I don't turn my head, but I've been trying to make a more conscientious effort to look through the turns while driving my car. Target fixation is just as real in a car. If you're headed for an accident in a car or in a bike, it doesn't matter, you're still going to instinctively stare at whatever you'll ultimately hit.
karpsymoto
02-14-2005, 06:46 PM
I too have used some of the same principles in my cage, especially looking through and setting up for turns. By the way, I have a friend who has taken an auto racing course. We compared notes and he had some of the same principles in his class that we had in ours...including turning his head to look through the turns, steering towards the safety, avoiding fixation, delayed apex turning, etc.
I guess what works, works.
x_cuesme
02-14-2005, 08:11 PM
I know I look over my shoulder more instead of just using my mirrors- which is good.
My daughter commented a few weeks ago that I'm 'overly-defensive' in the car since I started riding a bike- That I'm constantly watching for trouble and ready to take defensive measures. I don't know if that's 'overly defensive' or not- maybe it's a good thing.
But riding has obviously affected my driving-
x_cuesme
southernspirit
02-14-2005, 08:45 PM
Not NEAR as fun setting up for a curve in my car as it is on my bike! :lol2:
karpsymoto
02-14-2005, 08:48 PM
Hi Southerspirit: I couldn't agree more :thumbsup:
southernspirit
02-14-2005, 09:05 PM
:wavey: Howdy Karpsy!
Magnamania
02-14-2005, 09:06 PM
You got a lot more to loose on a bike. That will make you more aware. Habits from riding should carry over to driveing your cage.
You cannot drive too defencively. I always look for the other guy to do whatever would be the worst thing he can . That way you don't get surprises.
I never noticed turning my head more since I started riding, but then I rode mortorcycles for about 4 years befor I was old enough to get a drivers licence. When I was a kid the cops :postcop: never bothered us on our small motorcycles, unless we were doing something wrong. Then they would usually just give us a lecture and let us go. :heyyou:
Now you got me thinking. :???: I'll have to pay attention and see if I ride and drive the same way. I know this I haven't had any accidents involveing cars on my bikes. However I have dumped my dirt bikes lots of times. :oops: That something that happens occasionaly in the dirt.
Smitty
02-14-2005, 09:12 PM
IF you did not do "head turns" or as we call it in Cdn being "shoulder checks" you would be docked you chances of obtaining your cage or m/c license. It is a MUST here in Cdn.
karpsymoto
02-14-2005, 09:17 PM
Southern Spirit: Howdy Y'all :wavey:
RockyMtnRoadRash
02-15-2005, 08:57 AM
I know I look over my shoulder more instead of just using my mirrors- which is good.
My daughter commented a few weeks ago that I'm 'overly-defensive' in the car since I started riding a bike- That I'm constantly watching for trouble and ready to take defensive measures. I don't know if that's 'overly defensive' or not- maybe it's a good thing.
The same thing has happened to my driving. Lots of head motion, heightened road awareness, and the patented Cager Sense that my brother finds totally unsettling.
That van is going to cut you off in a couple seconds!
I have a great head turn to the left but due to a little neck problem, my head turn to the right is a little still... I need to do something to better turn ability with my head. It is not a safety issue, at least the instructor didn't think so. He just said to be more aware of it....
Anyone else out there experience this?
Jan (Vino Jan:)
Ok, I don't get it, what is this CAGE you are all talking about? Is this something I need to know? Now just bare with me, cause you all know, I'm just getting into this...:) :)
Vino Jan
bobinottawa
02-15-2005, 11:16 AM
Since I have been a biker, I have been a better car driver too. Much more concious of lane position, blind spots etc.
Spirited64
02-15-2005, 11:28 AM
One of my shortcomings when I learned to ride was looking where I wanted to go, ie..turning head in that direction. I started practicing that in my car, and still do it now. I felt at first that if I kept my head turned I wouldn't be able to see "everything". Practicing that in my car helped me tremendously when I started to take the bike on busy streets. I think it's a "trust issue". Trusting yourself to have made the correct assessment of the situation your facing at a corner, knowing that the you have already decided that the way was clear to go, and then turning your head in the direction you are going and feeling confident. I also practiced using both side mirrors in my car since that is all you have on a bike, no rear-view mirror like in a car. I used to use only the rear-view mirror in my car and then looking over my shoulder before making a lane change. Now I check the side mirrors also and looking over my shoulder. So yes it has made me a better cage driver. And I definately look for two wheel riders!! hehe
Jan.................CAGE=car/van etc.
Irmi
MtnMan
02-15-2005, 11:37 AM
Ok, I don't get it, what is this CAGE you are all talking about? Is this something I need to know? Now just bare with me, cause you all know, I'm just getting into this...:) :)
Vino Jan
Jan,
A "CAGE" refers to a car or truck, the driver and passengers are protected and not exposed to the elements or other vehicles .
Allan
02-15-2005, 03:08 PM
I to have noticed that I look through the curves, even in my truck. I also now get all my breaking and downshifting done before the turn and am always on the gass, even if its just a little through the turn.
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