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JsWoRLd316
08-03-2005, 08:30 PM
Thinking about getting a Modern super sport bike for a first bike, ummmm not a good idea just a waist of money. Check this case out, this a bike for sale on Craigslist.com.
I know im just a newb, but i just want to help out does out there who consider getting a super sport for a first bike.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/mcy/88764597.htm

JsWoRLd316
08-03-2005, 08:32 PM
sorry if it didnt work, just copy and paste

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/mcy/88764597.html

JsWoRLd316
08-03-2005, 08:49 PM
What do you think about a 1998 NINJA 600 zx for a first bike.?

AnthonyC
08-03-2005, 10:21 PM
Personally I would say it is not a good idea. The 250 and 500 Ninja are the only two I would consider to be good first bikes out of the Ninja line. From there it quickly goes downhill for a newbie. Older sportbikes still have a lot more horsepower, sharper steering/brakes, etc. than I would consider beginner-friendly. My 93 Katana had 136hp and brakes that would easily stand you up on the front wheel if you forcefully grabbed a handful and the GSXR was still a step up from that.

Ant

MarcS
08-04-2005, 02:50 AM
Dude, NO. Get a freaking dual-sport or dirt bike, and learn to ride on the dirt. You ought to realize the opinions of people here are not going to change regardless of what bike you think is sexy at this time of day. People here will tell you the same thing: get an older 250/500 sport or 250-650 dual sport, or you are going to die, or at least make your mom cry when you get seriously hurt. They tell you this because IT IS TRUE.

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TeknoGTI
08-04-2005, 08:39 AM
Ehhhh, No! I would suggest against it, trust me. I was on the same mind set to buy a new or used R6. However i listened and got a EX250. I have made a couple of ooops, mistakes that I think I would of paid for if i was on a bigger and more powerful bike. I really suggest against it and learn on something smaller. THen in a year or 2 upgrade, you will not lose much money on the resell of an ex250 if you buy used. dont buy new not worth it. gl with your choice. :chopper:

Chrystal
08-04-2005, 10:45 AM
:horse: :werd:

JsWoRLd316
08-04-2005, 11:06 AM
I understand all of your points but, finding 250 and 500s in my are are so damm hard. all i see are 600 and up.

JsWoRLd316
08-04-2005, 11:07 AM
But thats no excuse, im still looking to buy something small.

Zixxer10
08-04-2005, 11:09 AM
What do you think about a 1998 NINJA 600 zx for a first bike.?

Well, they're better than the R model and probably not much different from a 600 Katana. That was my son's first bike and I spent some time on it too. It's a step above the EX-500, of course. All the sub 650cc bikes will turn in the 6500 to 7000 RPM range at legal freeway speeds. That's my only knock on the smaller bikes, but they're the only good and safe way to start out.

asp125
08-04-2005, 11:35 AM
I understand all of your points but, finding 250 and 500s in my are are so damm hard. all i see are 600 and up.
Did you see speedemon's other post?
http://www.beginnerbikers.org/showthread.php?t=2689

MarcS
08-04-2005, 12:25 PM
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/mcy/88806262.html

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/mcy/88745812.html

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/mcy/88645845.html

http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/9/6/80363396.htm

Dude, there are good beginner bikes EVERYWHERE. I found those 4 in about 5 minutes.

jixaw
08-04-2005, 12:42 PM
dont worry dude....we'll help you find something.....what is your budget for real??

hey...that ninja 500 ...the 1st of marcs's post is not a bad deal.....

JsWoRLd316
08-04-2005, 01:51 PM
I talked to the owner of this bike i found on ebay, the bike is actually really close to my house.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4566474870&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1

He told me the bike needed minor work, i asked him what kind of work and he reply this

the bike needs work read ad please, i'm not putting any cash in it because i can't keep it, tune-up, hoses seals, and lube. I had the bike a month only rode it from the guy that i got it from home. I'm not putting any work into it, feel me

What do you think, how much would i end up paying for all the parts the bike needs?????

AnthonyC
08-04-2005, 02:09 PM
"It has Minor damage. The guy I bought it from had it sitting for a year. It has easy fix road rash on left side. The front tire may need to be replaced. "

Looking at the pictures I would say that is likely to end up costing you quite a bit more than a new 250 Ninja which would be a much better starter bike.

It looks like the bike was laid down (as opposed to simply dropped) so the pictures may not tell the whole story. The clip-ons could be bent, it looks like there is at least one mirror that may need to be replaced, plus all of the cosmetics. The picture from the rear concerns me, the rear tire doesn't line up with the tail-lights at all. I can't tell what is bent where but that doesn't look good at all.

Personally this would seem to be a pretty bad bike to start on. Again you are probably looking at quite a bit of repairs to get it back to health for a bike that is pretty questionable to start on. My advice, keep shopping (for something other than a 600cc sportbike).

Ant

JsWoRLd316
08-04-2005, 02:14 PM
OK, no problem i guess im going to pass on that bike.

asp125
08-04-2005, 02:17 PM
Pass on this! That rear subframe looks tweaked pretty bad. The fact that "too many people making deals and backing out" ought to be a BIG RED FLAG for you.

Look at the links from MarcS above. That Ninja 500 for $1500 isn't too bad, he originally wanted $2300. Only minor rash from what looks like a low speed drop.

On second thought, fairing's cracked... low ball this one at $1200 and look for a fairing on eBay

remy_marathe
08-04-2005, 02:22 PM
That third one Marc posted sounds like a fair deal too, though that picture's not of the exact GS500 for sale. Seriously, quit wasting your time even LOOKING at 600cc sportbikes, and quit looking at things that "need work". You're not qualified to deal with either one yet. Buy something with low miles that's been babied, or somebody's going to stick you with their money pit.

JsWoRLd316
08-04-2005, 02:22 PM
I email the seller of the ninja 500 twice, im just going to wait for his response.

jixaw
08-04-2005, 02:31 PM
I am thinking that this ninja 500 might be a better choice for you....you might scratch it so the scrapes might be not a big deal for now....

you might want to see if you can get a front fairing.....

here's another thing....if you wind up replacing a fairing......you get to paint the whole bike whatever color you want......and you can get some hot graphics like these http://www.tapeworks.com/GENERIC%20Kits/GenericKits_sport.html in any colour you want....you can have a hot bike that no one else has...and you can customize it yourself.....and all this might come under 2k....

could you see yourself riding this bike?...or is it not for u?....if its a colour thing, you can change the colour....

asp125
08-04-2005, 02:44 PM
http://www.parts411.com/acb/Category.cfm?&DID=9&CATID=20

A replacement upper fairing (new) retails between $200 and $350 from my quick on-line search. You can also get full upper and lower bodywork.

jixaw
08-04-2005, 03:01 PM
you can get a used one too...and get it painted

JsWoRLd316
08-04-2005, 06:12 PM
Ok, this is what the owner of the Ninja 500 wrote to me earlier.

. fyi- the throttle is sticky and the right mirror is loose
Nothing duct tape can't fix) but it rides just fine.

what do you think. should i get it or not.

i mean i can buy a new mirror but i dont know about the sticky throttle.

asp125
08-04-2005, 06:24 PM
Ok, this is what the owner of the Ninja 500 wrote to me earlier.

. fyi- the throttle is sticky and the right mirror is loose
Nothing duct tape can't fix) but it rides just fine.

what do you think. should i get it or not.

i mean i can buy a new mirror but i dont know about the sticky throttle.

Could be just a simple matter of lubing the throttle cable/linkages or a weak throttle return spring, or the drop might have bent the bar just enough to cause the throttle to bind. Have a mechanic or friend who knows bikes to check it out. A properly adjusted throttle should snap back closed when you let go. I used to have a 500R, they're pretty bulletproof if taken care of.

Sounds like there are enough members of this board near enough to NYC to help.

JsWoRLd316
08-04-2005, 06:26 PM
OK, im going to give him a call, and talk about the price, I need more of your help about this bike guys, Thanks alot asp125

MarcS
08-05-2005, 01:18 AM
Throttle cables are wear items. A sticky throttle probably means the cable is either improperly routed or needs to be replaced. Those are both simple problems to solve, but you really should have a very experienced motorcyclist with you. There are several in the NYC area; maybe someone will volunteer to spend a day on a weekend checking out bikes with you.

LoDownSinner
08-05-2005, 07:45 AM
A new fairing for a Ninja 250 is about $450 from www.ronayers.com. They come painted and with the graphics already on them.