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yossarian
03-29-2005, 12:48 AM
After loaning my scoot to a friend (bad idea!!) somethings up with the exhaust valve. I've grown tired of dealing with it, and my mother has grown tired of dealing with me dealing with it, so I now have permission to buy whatever I want (with my own money, funny how that works, huh?)

There's a nice leftover 03 honda reflex w/ abs at the local dealer I bet they'd be willing to deal on. I could go that route and have a nice dependible ride with a warenntee (and a trunk even!!). It would be kindof boring though (to my inner tinkerer) and I'd probably void the warenntee within hours of ownership besides. And...

...I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really reallyreally really really really really really.... want a classic Vespa. Downsides, reliability? hah! (the p series isn't so bad though), but I don't really need reliable transportation, I have the most awesomest car in the world, so if it didn't kick over one morning, no big deal. No trunk, but I've made due without one thus far. And no vavles to adjust (my lastest peeve with the elite), bahahaha!!

I guess I've already made my decision, but then it becomes a matter of what vespa? A p200 would suit my needs nicely, though I really like the look of VBBs, and primaveras are nice too. This is something I'm definately going to modify (maybe even race with the asra!) so a smallframe (primmy) would be nice for that, though it would be a little high strung for semi daily use. I guess I'll keep my eye out and see what comes up.

I'm also thinking that I may have to sell whatever I get when I transfer to a UC in a year (at a junior college now). I may have to continue living at home, in which case the reflex would come in handy for the commute, but I suppose they'll always be the used market. I'm hoping I can move closer in which case anything goes realluy.

I've always loved italians.

prester_john
03-29-2005, 03:34 PM
A) Provided the "C" in UC isn't California...

If you can budget the 03 'flex, you should be able to swing a new 2005 Vespa PX150 (http://www.vespausa.com/products/px_150.cfm):

http://www.vespausa.com/images/px_150_view4_lrg.jpg

Available in Red, Excalibur Gray, Black, Vintage Green for US MSRP $4199. Legal if marginal for the freeway/interstate in most states. You get reliablitiy, a warranty - and a classic Vespa. Win-win; what's not to like?

B) If the "C" is California...

There's a cottage industry these day's importing old Vespas, so it shouldn't be too hard to get one. I'd recomend working with a reputable local shop rather than a 'net based importer (there's some quick-buck trash out there). Check out the offbeat T5's - they have neat engines, disc front brakes and unique looks.

Alternatively, if you've got the manual shift, steel monocoque classic scooter jones, but like modern reliability and factory warranties -don't over look the CARB OK'ed Bajaj Chetak (http://www.bajajusa.com/).

http://www.bajajusa.com/images/bajaj_racing1.jpg

HTH,
Tom

yossarian
03-29-2005, 09:07 PM
If the C wasn't California I'd have a Stella sitting in my garage right now. I like the bajaj, but I don't feel its fast enough; they top out around the same place my honda does (just above 60), and have about as much of an aftermarket to solve that. I've been in contact with the local shops for a while, so I just have to wait to see what turns up.

x_cuesme
03-29-2005, 09:52 PM
yossarian, getting the scoot you want it a good thing-

My daughter chose the Vino 125 simply because she likes the Italian styling and couldn't afford a Vespa. Although she oves riding the Reflex, she hates the way it looks- and when the time comes for her to move up, I'm sure it's a Vespa that she'll go for!

Good luck- hope you find the scoot of your dreams!

x_cuesme

yossarian
04-05-2005, 01:02 AM
I don't know anymore. My honda left me stranded again right after I fixed it for some unknown reason, In the dark. I'm tired of dealing with it. Vespas aren't really known for their reliability either. There's a lot less to break on them though. I may just give up riding. I'm really angry right now.

x_cuesme
04-05-2005, 01:05 AM
Man, I'm sorry. I can understand you being upset-

But don't let a bum ride ruin riding for you. We run Yamahas and Hondas- bikes and scoots both- and honestly have had 'zero' problems with them. Ours are all newer but folks with older models haven't been complainig either-

Take a ride on a Reflex. May help you get past the looks- honest!

Hope you're feeling better soon-

x_cuesme

yossarian
04-05-2005, 01:45 AM
Its not the looks for me. It looks fine, it just seems to lack character. It just gives me a generic plastic twistngo vibe, like a two wheeled civic.

Sparky
04-05-2005, 07:39 AM
If you're going for a vintage Vespa 2-stroke...from what I've read on other forums about them, you're going to be more than satisfying your tinkering desires. If you're tired of dealing with unreliable transport, I agree that a vintage Vespa will drive you bonkers. Simple designs and easy to work with, but they need upkeep.

I kinda like the Kymco Bet & Win 250 look--sporty little thing without that swoopy/oversized tourer look the Japanese one affect. If you want "sorta vintage", there's the People 250. I feel odd about hyping a brand I've never ridden. It's just they have a strong following due to reliability and price.

Sparky

yossarian
04-05-2005, 09:19 PM
There's nothing vintage about a plastic auto scoot with 16" wheels...

Now I'm really mad, I got home from work today and the damn thing started!! It's toying with me!

grrr...

This all started when I loaned it to a friend over spring break since his truck was undergoing a rebuild. He had it before me so I figured it would be okay. But he still treated it like the $20 titleless basketcase it was when he had it, and quickly returned it that state it seems:mad:

MaxiScoot
04-06-2005, 11:25 AM
If you want to keep your friends, don't let them ride your bike.

If you want something to tinker with, keep the one you've got; but go buy something reliable for transportation.

xgambit
04-06-2005, 12:47 PM
get this scoot, its so much cooler!

http://www.burningart.com/meico/moto/akira/takeoff2.jpg

http://www.burningart.com/meico/moto/akira/takeoff1.jpg

prester_john
04-06-2005, 07:39 PM
There's nothing vintage about a plastic auto scoot with 16" wheels...

http://scooterridermag.com/ads/harley_topper2.jpg

Scoot safe,
Tom

RockyMtnRoadRash
04-06-2005, 08:09 PM
get this scoot, its so much cooler!

http://www.burningart.com/meico/moto/akira/takeoff2.jpg

http://www.burningart.com/meico/moto/akira/takeoff1.jpg

KANEEEEEDAAAA!!!!

Sorry couldn't stand it.